Minutes of the HCC meeting held at GNRT – Monday 8th April


Graham Freel

Andrew Rendle

Joff Verby

Nick Chitty

Sally Morshead

Selena Calder

Adam Coffman

Anna Gudaniec

Patrick Field

Michael Poteliakhoff

Apologies: Cllr Toni Mallett, Eliza Kaczynska-Nay


LBH cycling and walking study

AC attended the 1st meeting.  He said the brief is being re-written to put more emphasis on pedestrians.  HCC should record support for present brief.  MP to forward brief to Nick Chitty.  MP said ASL enforcement by LBH could be raised in a future meeting.


Haringey Loop, Consultant’s report

GF said we should ask for North side cycle access direct to St Anne’s Road roundabout.  It was agreed we should ask for the risk assessment on this, but not link it to the loop proposals as these are fundamentally aimed at inexperienced cyclists.  MP will email draft consultant’s document to all present for comments.  MP will send comments and ask for meeting with LBH.


Crouch Hill road safety scheme

MP will give more comment on the pinch point, resurfacing and speed monitoring.


Borough News items for next London Cyclist (deadline Monday 29th April) and Borough Insert

Update on Loop  (Post meeting note- should we give a date for a ride exploring the Loop?)

Further ASL item

Mini guide for good routes

JV will write up E-W route to Lea Valley


West Green Triangle progress? (also Tottenham Hale?)

MP will ask for update on progress with signing etc.


Rides/British Cycling Partnership (15th April 2013 09.30-12.00 Haringey Civic Centre Committee Room 1)

AC will talk to Edwin Leigh about HCC involvement.  (Post meeting note- AC confirms notification was for information)

It was agreed a ride exploring the Loop would be good.  AR and SM could help organise HCC rides.



AC will chase up the proposal for cycle ramps at Hornsey Station.

PF will write a web site contribution on using ASL’s.

PF suggested we buy a trailer for £200 with a good number of hitches.  It was agreed PF will buy.


April meeting in action – Crisps, maps and plans, followed by Tomos Pizza!

HCC meeting April 2013


Our letter to Councillor Nilgun Canver


 Cllr Nilgun Canver

Lead Member for the Environment

Haringey Council
River Park House
225 High Road, Wood Green  N22 8HQ                                          21st March 2013


London Cycling Campaign HGV Safety Pledge

Dear Nilgun,

On behalf of HCC, the local Haringey group of the London Cycling campaign, I would like to express our thanks for your work and your officers work in improving HGV safety in the Borough.   I understand the Council is committed to achieving the aims of the LCC Pledge in the near future, with action taken by both the Councils main HGV operators and with driver training planned for the Councils own non-HGV drivers. 


These efforts, together with those of other London Boroughs and Transport for London, will I am sure, contribute to a reduction in the disproportionate number of cyclist fatalities and serious accidents in London involving HGV’s.  


The London Cycling Campaign also recognises that cyclists need to understand the “blind spots” in the view from an HGV cab and take account of this when on the road near an HGV.  This has been subject of publicity in “London Cyclist” and on the internet.   I believe that together we can make a difference to the number of these tragic accidents on London’s roads.


Yours sincerely,

 Michael Poteliakhoff



HCC Meeting Minutes 11.3.13

Selena Calder
Adam Coffman
Anna Guidaniec
Joff Verby
Patrick Field
Michael Poteliakhoff
Apologies: Cllr Toni Mallett, Sally Morshead, Eliza Kaczynska-Nay, Nick Chitty, Andrew Rendle
HGV safety pledge/LCC local group meeting
MP had been very encouraged by the meeting with LBH on 21.2.13. He will chase up on Pledge. MP said the HGV discussion was in the context of a meeting covering a wide range of cycling issues and AC thought it would be good if HCC could attend on a regular basis.
HCC’s insert for London Cyclist
Deadline is 25th March. AG has some good “cycling in Haringey” photos. MP said it will be good to have the HGV event ahead of the deadline and write it up. AC would write something on the Haringey School Cycling League.
LBH cycling and walking study
MP outlined the brief for this. MP will scan documents and copy to AG and AC. He thought it would be useful if it produced a handbook of good practice aimed to achieve the objectives.
Crouch Hill road safety scheme – there are further queries on this
MP will respond.
Cycle sheds in front gardens
MP will continue our input to guidance on cycle shelter design and will express HCC support for a change in permitted development rules in the next round of government consultation. Post meeting note: There is a strong view in responses on the newsgroup that permission should not be needed for front garden shelters.
LCC funding, should we forgo this year?
It was agreed we should accept this years funding but spend more on attracting participation e.g in family rides with a float for teas at end of ride. We will order a banner. It can be in PVC logo on white and possibly with plain green side valances for use at tables.
Haringey Loop
The consultants report is not yet available.
School events – HCC could offer Dr Bike and LCC stall. SC said we need to talk to PTA’s. AG will write up for newsletter.

LCC Policy Forum Seminar Series

The seminar series, kicking off on 8th April with Andrew Gilligan (TfL Cycling Commissioner) and Danny Williams (Cyclists in the City blog, LCC City of London LCC) should be of interest to anyone looking for a better cycling environment for London.

For full details of the series see http://lcc.org.uk/pages/seminar-series


HCC Meeting Minutes 11th February 2013

HCC Meeting Monday 11th February 2013
Adam Coffman
Bob Somers
Anna Guidaniec
Joff Verby
Michael Poteliakhoff
1. Report on meeting with LBH on 21/1/13, Tottenham Hale letter from TfL, HGV pledge
AC and MP had not heard from Toni Mallett re meeting with Nilgun Canver about HGV pledge and MP has suggested LBH fleet manager, who was due to attend meeting with TfL be asked to attend. LBH is rated 2 out of 5 by LCC. Post meeting note, following email from AC, MP attended a meeting with Cllrs Canver and Mallett and LBH officers and the outcome has been very positive. MP confirmed path from St Michael’s Terrace to Bounds Green Rd is being widened and resurfaced. MP has received positive letter from TfL on Tottenham Hale, confirming CS1 alignment has been allowed for.
2. Haringey Loop
MP and AC attended a CRIM ride with LBH officers, consultants and Cllr Toni Mallett to inspect. MP tabled the draft route. MP would share with consultants the comments from the local group meeting supporting the Western Road alignment.
3. Hornsey Heart
No developments to report. Post meeting note, it is understood from Tony Kennedy at LBH some funding will be used for the informal pedestrian/cycle crossing at the Greenway 4 crossing of Park Rd. Safety improvements at the Hornsey High St/ Hornsey Lane turning will be funded by section 106 money from the Hornsey depot development. This work will follow work on the railway bridge.
4. Cycle Storage
MP will talk to other groups when current Ealing/Haringey local discussions on guidance become public.
5. Winter Social
Timing was confirmed. GNRT can serve pancakes.
6. LBH Policy on pothole accident claims
MP said it appeared to be current policy to send out standard letters disclaiming responsibility.
7. Spring/Summer rides
It was agreed HCC should organise rides, as previously family rides were very popular.
8. AOB
AG said HCC has been asked to fill in form on group resources. AG will forward. MP reported on the recent Transport Forum, including “Go Dutch” presentation by Gerhard Weiss from LCC, which was well received and TfL pedestrian crossing timings at Bounds Green Rd, presented by TfL as a case study. It was hoped the 72 second max wait time at the Toucan crossing can be reduced.

HCC Meeting Minutes14th January 2013


HCC Meeting 14th January 2013


Anna Gudaniec,    Andrew Rendle,    Adam Coffman

Geoff Verby,   Michael Poteliakhoff,   Despina Moutafis

Karen Brockett,   Hazel Gilcreest,    Nick Chitty


Eliza Kaczynka-Nay

 1. Change in future meeting start (to 7.00) and possible cancellation Feb meeting

It was agreed the time should stay at 7.30pm and the Feb meeting should be held as normal

 2. February Social on 12th Feb

AG and GV will see if cycle shops can donate items for raffle.  AG will place order for 10 pizzas.  MP to do reminder in newsgroup and ask Sally M for cheque.

 3. Greenway Link 3 (Downhills Park to Tottenham Marshes) outcome following Bob Somers and Adam Coffman’s ride with LBH officers.

AC reported on the ride and said there are good existing routes, which are being incorporated.

Bob Somers has emailed the Council with a summary of that would improve conditions for cycling on or locally to the proposed route.

 4. Nomination for LCC policy Forum outer London Boroughs representative   

It was agreed unanimously that Elisa Kaczynka-Nay should be nominated.

 5. Haringey Loop/Hoop

AC outlined the scheme and said consultants have been asked to tender for project development.

 6. Hornsey Heart

There has been a consultation.  NC said the latest leaflet has mentioned Sustrans.  He has asked for information but has not received anything so far.

 7. Borough insert for Feb Mag deadline is Mon 28th Jan

MP to do draft and AG will do graphics.

8. AOB

AR suggested we organise some rides in the summer  e.g Haringey Loop.


Monthly meeting – January 2013 – Monday 14th

Hello everyone,


Just a reminder, that our monthly meeting for January, will be on Monday 14th, starting at 7.30pm.


We meet in the Grade II listed Great Northern Railway Tavern on Hornsey High Street. A beautifully restored pub, with a landlord who’s happy to accomodate group of Haringey Cyclists!  We can be found on the large table to your left, as you enter the rear section of the pub.

Here’s what we’ll be discussing for starters…

1.  Change in future meeting start to 7.00 and cancelling Feb meeting as day before social
2.  Greenway Link 3 (Downhills Park to Tottenham Marshes) outcome following Bob Somers and Adam Coffman’s ride with LBH officers
3.  Possible nomination for LCC Policy Forum outer London Boroughs representative (any offers?)
4.  Haringey Loop/ Hoop
5.  Hornsey Heartlands
6.  AOB