Read more about the 20mph in Haringey consultation, and have your say via the Haringey Council website here.
We feel that there a number of roads which are currently intended to be exempt, and will remain at 30mph.
Here’s our letter to Haringey’s Cabinet Member for the Environment, Cllr Stuart McNamara.
Image thanks to Bounds Green Residents Association.
Dear Cllr McNamara,
HCC fully supports the planned implementation a 20mph default speed limit on all borough roads in Haringey, apart from certain main roads, however it seems to us some of the roads intended to be designated at 30mph, should have a 20mph limit, to take account of local conditions and to maximise pedestrian and cycle safety. The roads we would ask to be reconsidered are-
Fortis Green Rd, which has a number of shops and restaurants and also a very narrow section, where a 20mph limit will greatly improve road safety.
Hornsey High Street, where there are many shops and restaurants and at least 3 schools in the vicinity.
West Green Road, where there are many schools, shops and restaurants and where heavy traffic congestion during the day means that the average traffic speed must be already below 20mph. An official 20mph limit will smooth the traffic flow and improve safety.
The whole of the Tottenham Lane/ Church Lane one way system, which is next to a school in one direction and leads up to shops in the other and where speeding traffic can be very intimidating in a mainly residential area.
Cycling Champion Cllr Toni Mallett has said she considers Hornsey High Street and West Green Rd should in particular be made 20mph and I hope all the roads above can be looked at again, in consultation with local councillors.
Following our successful September ride around the central third of the borough (well, Wood Green, Turnpike Lane, Harringay) with Cllr Toni Mallet (the borough cycling champion) and Cllr Stuart Macnamara (our Cabinet Member for the Environment) we held our second ride, heading east on 17th October.
We were joined by 2 Project Engineers who work in the Sustainable Transport team at Haringey Council – the engineers and Cllr Macnamara borrowing council pool bikes – although Stuart has now officially sign up to keep his pool bike long term!
To get an idea of where we covered, here’s a rough ride route:
Chestnuts Park, North Grove, Roslyn Road, Town Hall Approach, Broad Lane, Ashley Road, Park View Road barriers, Watermead Way, Northumberland park, Park Lane, Bruce Castle Park, Risley Avenue.
On Tuesday 4th November, we’re joining a meeting between Transport for London representatives, local Councillors and residents to discuss the problems that still need to be ‘ironed out’ now that the Tottenham Hale Gyratory removal scheme is ‘complete’*
WE NEED YOUR INPUT
We’ve heard from a lot of people via Twitter, Facebook, email and face to face who have complaints about the new layout, often that it is ‘worse than before’ or ‘more difficult to get north to south’.
We agree, but we need your comments to present during this meeting.
This is our one chance to feedback to TfL. Every comment counts because ‘every journey matters’ !
Email your comments to us in the following format:
Subject: Tottenham Hale – meeting 4th November
Content: A brief description of your problem, followed by location if specific.
We’ll collate all comments in to one document, which we’ll present at the meeting on 4th November. We’ll make the list of all comments public on our website too.
*although Thames Water are still due to dig up some sections which is why there are still temporary crossings on Ferry Lane.
Cllr McNamara with his ‘new’ steed. Haringey Council pool bike number 4.
3 and a half hours pedalling around the middle third of Haringey, so useful that Cllr McNamara wants to repeat this in both the West and East of the borough in the coming months.
Here’s our notes from our first Tour de Haringey (& more photos below)
|1||Lymington Avenue/ Ashley Cres||Good example shared use pedestrian area, suitable where relatively low cycle numbers. Shared use “Pedestrian priority” signage needed|
|2||Lymington Ave / High Rd||Shared use, improvements in progress, signage essential as above|
|3||Sandlings/ Whymark Rd||Bollards difficult to negotiate (sharp turn from LCN 54). Move bollards back and increase spacing|
|4||High Rd/ Turpike La Junction S bound||No space to access ASL. Improve access for cycles as sketch attached|
|5||Turpike La/ Langham Rd||Good shared use area planned. Cycle access points and area of shared use need to be clearly marked/ signed, to avoid disconcerting pedestrians|
|6||Langham Rd/ Westbury small private shops cut tro’||Inconsiderate (and illegal) cycle use, No Cycling sign needed|
|7||Harringay Rd closure||Cycle gaps unusable, complete redesign needed with generous space ?use bollards|
|8||Harringay Rd||Needs to be 2-way for cycles, for access to St Ann’s Rd|
|9||Park Rd||Stop rat run by making No right turn at High Rd|
|10||St Ann’s/ Salisbury Rd||Very dangerous left hook turn, extend pavement to tighten turn from St Ann’s|
|11||Woodlands Park||Excessive rd width and turn radii. Extend pavement to give tighter turns and improve pedestrian safety. Double yellow needed at junction|
|12||St Ann’s/ Brampton Rd||Parking bays (next to zig-zags) obscure view of zebra. Move parking to Brampton Rd|
|13||St Ann’s/ Brampton Rd||Bus stop hemmed in by car parking. Traffic review of St Ann’s could cover this and points above|
|14||Ladder Roads||One ways deter cycling (though Harringay Passage helps by allowing walk through to next road). Select 1 or 2 roads for trial of 2 way cycling|
|15||Warwick Gardens||1st Bike Hangar in Haringey. There is a demand for further provision. Officers should identify locations where notifications can be combined with other work, to save cost. See also detailed notes attached (to follow). Fencing is due to be renewed|
|16||Green Lanes||Cycle numbers high in rush hours, good S bound bus lane. Wide cycle lane can be provided N bound, without any reduction in road capacity|
|17||Green Lanes/ Endymion/ Hermitage||Danger from N bound fast left turn to Endymion . Only 1 S bound lane is really needed (S bound beyond to Manor Hse is 1 lane) so space can be reallocated to cycle lanes feeding to ASL’s at both junctions|
|18||Entrances to Finsbury Park||Additional entrances near Hermitage Rd and Wightman Rd would be great benefit to cycles and pedestrians. (see drawing attached)|
|19||Endymion/ Wightman roundabout||Fast and some aggressive motorists- redesign needed. ?Possible speed table at W approach and other calming|
|19||Wightman Road||Very hostile cycling conditions, aggravated by pinch points at numerous traffic islands. Potential for reduction in car parking. Could this be on alternate sides of road to give chicane effect, with islands removed and speed tables at junctions? Possibility of parking on side roads and 45deg echelon parking at wider side roads?|
|20||Western Road/ Mary Neuner Road||Some traffic too fast at bends. Provide cycle lanes to protect cycles and reduce apparent road width. Investigate safe pedestrian and cycle access to Alexandra School and Nursery. Railing at bend is too long and inhibits access to nursery
Further suggestion from HCC- reroute through traffic from N of Western Rd and from narrow Hornsey Park Rd, to Mayes RD/ Coburg Rd/ Mary Neuner Rd
|21||Penstock Path||Prevent parking next to end of path|
TfL say :
‘Last published in 2005, the revised London Cycling Design Standards (LCDS) is a technical document that should inform design options and promote an integrated and ambitious approach to delivering high quality infrastructure for cycling in all parts of London.
It has now been comprehensively updated to reflect established and emerging best practice, and to help planners and designers meet the aspirations of the Mayor’s Vision for Cycling.’
Well it is a VERY hefty document – but we took time to look through it all, and Haringey Cycling Campaign responded to the London Cycling Design Standards consultation with a number of suggestions and comments. Michael Poteliakhoff, our Coordinator put together a response with the following highlights:
- LCDS must be mandatory for ALL NEW WORK. Perhaps this is not the intention, but there must be NO AMBIGUITY on this.
- It should be made clear stakeholders need to be consulted on detailed design, including carriageway widths. On major schemes, consultation should be required at both concept and detail design stages.
- At all new road layouts, lead-in lanes to ASL’s should be mandatory, or the nearside traffic lane should be at least 4.5m, to allow cycle access. An ASL that cannot be accessed is either pointless or can encourage dangerous squeezing through narrow gaps.
- Sinusoidal ramps are mentioned here and in Chapter 4, however no section drawing is given. The drawings included in the 2005 LCDS are very helpful for stakeholders, to understand the concept and to allow discussion with engineers who do not always know how to get them right. Drawings for this and other construction details should be added, also perhaps a mention of the use of profile boards, which are a help for quality control.
- Excellent to see “Cyclists Dismount” signs are not to be used, though possibly there should be a qualification to allow them when a cycle route approaches steps.
- Granite setts- Use should always be avoided where straight (as opposed to staggered) jointing and/or degradation from traffic can result in a wheel trap for narrow tyres.
We look forward to seeing the LCDS advice being put in to place in Haringey, and will endeavour to put pressure on Haringey Council to do so.
April 27 @ 3:30 pm – 4:30 pm
A ride to celebrate Broad Lane going 2 way for the first time in years. Full event details here.
Join us on Sunday 27th April to ride the newly two-way Broad Lane, to celebrate the removal of the infamous Tottenham Hale Gyratory system.
It is our very own Day ‘H’ in Haringey. Join us on your bike or trike, and meet some fellow Haringey-ites when we have afternoon tea afterwards.
Meet at 3.30pm at the Markfield Park Cafe , returning to the same point after a short group ride.
The cafe has the red roof in the photo below – see you there!
Take action now to call for safe Space for Cycling from your Haringey election candidates.
In November 2013, London Cycling Campaign members and supporters completed a survey stating what changes they would like to see in their area. This data was the basis of the ward ‘asks’ we have created for each ward in the borough.
Space for Cycling survey – Haringey responses
In November, London Cycling Campaign set up a survey and asked for feedback on barriers to cycling in London, and in your own borough. There were 144 responses in Haringey, which has given us plenty of data to look at before we decide the asks for each ward on Monday 10th February.
With ( a lot of) help from Hammersmith & Fulham Cyclists we’ve managed to use Google map engine to create one map of:
a) the wards of Haringey
b) the responses you entered in the Space for Cycling survey
Even at a glance, it is clear where there are clusters of ‘hot spots’.
Please explore the map and let us know by comment or email if you’ve anything you’d like to see added.
It was great to meet so many new (and some more familiar) faces at our New Year Social last Monday. We think it’s fair to say a great time was had by all. Big thanks to The Great Northern Railway Tavern for being a wonderful venue, Tomo for the delicious pizza, and Albert the pub husky (wolf) for looking like a massive teddy bear by the fire.
We look forward to seeing you again soon!